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Fireworks and the accompanying smell of gunpowder bring up bad memories for many veterans. Many panic and they know that the sound and the smell will have an effect on them.
Justin Bajema, a former Marine corporal, can't help but think of a different kind of explosion when he hears the sound of fireworks.

He was on his second tour in Iraq in 2004 when his patrol vehicle was attacked by insurgents. His legs were filled with shrapnel from the blast and his recovery involved eight surgeries, post-traumatic stress disorder and extensive hospitalization.

He is now a spokesperson for the Coalition to Salute America's Heroes. Bajema lives in Grand Rapids Michigan. As he knows the difficulties go beyond the battle scars and he is trying to raise the awareness of the challenges that injured veterans face.

According to freep.com Bajema said,
"The hardest thing for me was getting my confidence back. Here I was, this 20-something young man, and all of a sudden, I felt helpless. That was a feeling I had never had before."


For many veterans the problems they have are their mounting bills and no way to pay them.

Pat Norberto, the coalition's director of development said,
"The immediate needs are often financial."


When there are severe injuries it prevents veterans from obtaining a job. The problem is compounded when family members have to leave their jobs to care for their injured loved one. The debts pile up quickly, and the credit card companies are often less than sympathetic.

The coalition is a New York-based nonprofit organization. They provide financial support for severely injured veterans from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars and help them adjust back into civilian life. It was started in 2004 and since then the group has distributed more than $11 million to 6,300 service members.

Some of their programs include emergency financial relief to prevent car repossessions and from having their utilities shutoff. They help with job searches and new or renovated homes adapted for disabled residents.

Norberto said, that a highlight of the program is the annual Road to Recovery Conference, which is a paid five-day trip for 150 severely injured troops and their families.

The conference this year in December will be at the Walt Disney Swan Resort in Orlando where they will help the veterans plan their careers and their all-around recovery.

Veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan with a military disability rating of at least 30% qualify for Road to Recovery and other coalition programs. These vets can register for the conference online at www.saluteheroes.org.

According to Norberto, the number of soldiers injured in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2001 may be anywhere from 100,000 to 300,000, depending on how the figure is calculated.

The advances in technology has helped soldiers survive injuries that in the past would have been fatal, but this has also created a greater need for support during the long process of rehabilitation.

Norberto said that there are many ways that citizens can help, such as participating in a coalition buddy program in which volunteers take a veteran out to a game, movie or lunch. Anyone who would like to help can obtain more information on volunteering at the coalition Web site.

Bajema said he is planning to spend this afternoon celebrating with family. But the evening's fireworks will be bittersweet.

Bajema said,
"It reminds me of a price that's paid. But I'm also humbled to know I'm blessed to be a citizen of this country."


Another young vet Max Dominquez, 21, lives in the the dormitory at Guiding Light Mission in Grand Rapids Michigan while he is undergoing treatment for traumatic brain injury and symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder from a roadside bomb last summer.

He served 12 months in Iraq and is dreading the fireworks. He says he had nothing against the Fourth of July but when the fireworks go off he plans to be far away.

He is planning to leave town and hunker down with the radio turned up so he can block the sound of the explosions. He fears that it will trigger a flashback to the day he was injured.

According to MLive.com Dominguez said while he covered his face with his hands as if he was trying to block out the memory,
"I hope to God not to be around here. Just talking about it, I can imagine seeing it and hearing it."


The number of veterans that struggle with post-traumatic stress disorder continues to grow.
From the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2003 there have been about 40,000 that have been diagnosed with the illness, which is also known as PTSD. This includes 14,000 in 2007.

Don Kramer a Vietnam veteran said,
"You never get used to it. You close your mind to it."
He also said some of the veterans have learned to cope with the annual fireworks but for some it's still a struggle.

Kramer who is a volunteer at the Grand Rapids Home for Veterans, recently accompanied a group of World War II vets to a baseball game. After the game when the fireworks went off he said a couple of the veterans panicked.

Kramer said,
"One guy started crying. "I just put my hand on his shoulder and started talking to him, made him understand this wasn't going to hurt him, that this was a thing of beauty. It brought back a lot of memories."


When Max Dominguez returned from Iraq last November, began drinking.

He said,
"That was the only way I learned to cope. I could go to sleep without waking up every hour."


He checked himself into a Veterans Administration hospital in Minnesota, his home state, then the VA hospital in Battle Creek Michigan. He came to Grand Rapids a week ago because he heard the city has good services for veterans. He has now been sober for 90 days.

His hope is to stay there and find a job as a carpenter which is what he did before his Minnesota National Guard unit was activated.

He said
"I'm proud of what I did. I'm not blaming my country. I volunteered. I served my time. Life goes on."


He said after he heard some boys setting off some firecrackers,
"At first I was terrified. Somebody drops something, or a truck backfires, you have no control over your thoughts. It's almost like your whole world disappears, and you zero in on where that sound came from."


He added that he doesn't begrudge those who enjoy the celebration but he said,
"I love a parade and I love celebrating the Fourth of July, but these fireworks, just these small ones are freaking me out."
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  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #101
    @ Jedediah Redman
    Sure that is what I am doing. What a dissembler you've become..!

    You made the statement implying that the NAZI's were unfairly hung for their acts not me. I just asked you a question as to your intentions of that statement. Why else would you even associate that with the subject at hand if it didn't have relevance to the reasoning of our troops following orders?
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #102
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    What the fuck are you talking about? Are you going to try to degrade me because I disagree with you. Or talk about how much better you think you are? Or I know, you are going to try to "turn the tables"

    Pathetic. I addressed a point and you can't counter it with more than another personal attack or insinuation

    You afraid of a real discussion? You can't answer?
    I think you can't handle a discussion with anyone who isn't trying to help you jack off.


    As I said, I'll have a discussion with anybody in their right mind. I'm hearing from a woman who gives every appearance of being in the throes of some sort of dementia...
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #103
    @ RCB2875
    You made the statement implying that the NAZI's were unfairly hung for their acts not me. I just asked you a question as to your intentions of that statement. Why else would you even associate that with the subject at hand if it didn't have relevance to the reasoning of our troops following orders?


    No I never did.
    You, I believe said they were just following orders and ol' jed tried to explain that justification had not carried much weight at Nuremberg, arcie bee.
    If you want to try to use my words against me, make sure you read my words correctly.
    If I'm not clear, I'm willing to try to be clearer...
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #104
    @ RCB2875
    Well just remember that your Democratic congress just sold out the "barefoot peasants" and their own party constituents for a few pork barrel bucks and political points by funding this so called corporate profit occupation as you see it and that they have so diligently protested since they approved it after 9/11.
    But as I see it there are so many reenlisting because they see the people there that are gaining their freedom to live without fear from extremist radicals and an overbearing corrupt government.


    My position began in 1967 under a Democratic president, arcie bee.
    Do not try to make this political.
    You rightwingcrazies are doing just as the BUSHISTAs had hoped you would: You're demonizing Islamists who have resisted invasion and occupation of their nations by the United States of America--a nation which should be better than that..!
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #105
    "We hanged a bunch of NAZI soldiers who protested they were just following orders, arcie bee."

    As anyone reading this discussion can see. In my post I referred to our troops following orders of which you criticized. You then drug the Nazi's into it under the same context of following orders. Which to anyone with the slightest ability of reading comprehension could see the drastic difference in context.
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #106
    Maybe you should join the rest of us in the present time of 2008 and get you train of thought out of 1967.
    Your very terminology in a lot of your comments is the same as was used by the communist sympathizers in the U.S. since the 1950's
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #107
    You said they were following orders, arcie bee.
    I said the NAZIs at Nuremberg tried to justify there actions by saying the same thing.
    Are you stoned? Have you been drinking?
    I'm not trying to be unpleasant--I don't like your politics; and I think you're trying to fake your way by pretending not to follow what I'm saying.
    Why not quit trying to obfuscate my argument?--try some intellectual honesty for a change...
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #108
    @ RCB2875
    Maybe you should join the rest of us in the present time of 2008 and get you train of thought out of 1967.
    Your very terminology in a lot of your comments is the same as was used by the communist sympathizers in the U.S. since the 1950's


    I am not a communist sympathizer, arcie bee.
    I think the USSR and the Republic of Korea reacted to efforts by capitalists to destroy them pretty much as any people under constant attack--such as the Israelis--would always react. They did what they had to do--they became militaristic.
    And it is a good thing the USSR did, too, or the world would be speaking German now.
    I'm not a communist sympathizer. And I'm not a real socialist either. Maybe a socialist democrat like so many northern Europeans--or maybe an actual communist in the spirit of the messianic Jews or the early Christians.

    I think people who demonize other kinds of people are insane. And the U. S. Government has been demonizing communists since before the U. S. Civil War. And now you rightwingcrazies have begun to demonize Islam...
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #109
    Ok Jed.. If you see the Nazi's trying to justify their actions to their enemy as being the same as our troops justifying their actions to you and those like you then I suppose it makes sense in a twisted way. But that is not the case here.

    Me asking you to keep the criticism of the troops directed at the administration that they have to follow is in no way comparable to the Nazi's defence of the same act of following orders to the U.S. that captured them. Good night Sir..
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #110
    @ RCB2875
    Ok Jed.. If you see the Nazi's trying to justify their actions to their enemy as being the same as our troops justifying their actions to you and those like you then I suppose it makes sense in a twisted way. But that is not the case here.

    Me asking you to keep the criticism of the troops directed at the administration that they have to follow is in no way comparable to the Nazi's defence of the same act of following orders to the U.S. that captured them. Good night Sir..


    On the contrary it is exactly and precisely comparable...
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #111
    @ 666divine
    If you are only referring to the celebrations, I don't see how that can be disturbing or frightening to most people. I took my kids out here on Canada Day and they loved it. And as a child, I enjoyed it too. For those who suffer PTSD and for others who are frightened by the celebrations, then they can just stay home or away from them, don't you think?


    As I have said, my way of thinking is puzzling--even upsetting--to many people.
    It is midnight here; and I am listening to patriots exploding fireworks to celebrate a terribly abstract notion.
    The dogs in the neighborhood apparently have not been drugged with valium--they're howling quite plaintively.
    I don't know about the kids--or the middle-aged vets from NAM--who're trying to hold it together so these self-absorbed patriots can blow their fingers off.
    Chock ol' jed off as just an old curmudgeon...
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #112
    After unsubscribing from my report last night I have now subscribed to it once again. Too many other battles were being fought here that departed from the subject.

    The subject was and still is about members of the military who come home from a war and need help to try to fit back into the life they once knew.

    They will never be able to completely go back to the way their life would have been if they had not gone to war. This is evidenced by the man from World War II to the man from Vietnam and those young men and women who are returning from the present war.

    For the men and women here at DJ who have fought in the war they do deserve our respect. Maybe sometimes their attitudes may irritate some but I say "So what!!" Those of us who have never had to fight for our freedom but just enjoy it do not know what they have gone through so that we can be free. It has to anger them to be shown the disrespect that I have seen here and that they face daily in the news media.

    These men and women who are now returning from this war should be able to get help before they slip into a life of drinking and drugs to try to forget seeing their buddies killed or maimed for life.

    How many do live on the streets doing drugs and drinking their life away to try and forget.

    It is a shame that our government does not give them more help to be able to return to civilian life. But there are many organizations that are helping and are making an impact in the lives of our veterans.

    The very least we can do is respect those who have fought in the wars. If you see someone in the military smile at them and let them know you appreciate them. I am not sure who it was that was in the military here at DJ that said when he sees someone in a restaurant that is in the military he always has the waitperson give him their bill.

    I am sure it can be just the little things that we can do that would make a whole lot of difference in the life of someone in the military.
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  666divine
    #113
    @ Jedediah Redman
    As I have said, my way of thinking is puzzling--even upsetting--to many people.
    It is midnight here; and I am listening to patriots exploding fireworks to celebrate a terribly abstract notion.
    The dogs in the neighborhood apparently have not been drugged with valium--they're howling quite plaintively.
    I don't know about the kids--or the middle-aged vets from NAM--who're trying to hold it together so these self-absorbed patriots can blow their fingers off.
    Chock ol' jed off as just an old curmudgeon...

    Where I live, we have laws against that - so far there are no laws agaisnt curmudgeons. :)
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #114
    @ Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    After unsubscribing from my report last night I have now subscribed to it once again. Too many other battles were being fought here that departed from the subject.

    The subject was and still is about members of the military who come home from a war and need help to try to fit back into the life they once knew.

    They will never be able to completely go back to the way their life would have been if they had not gone to war. This is evidenced by the man from World War II to the man from Vietnam and those young men and women who are returning from the present war.

    For the men and women here at DJ who have fought in the war they do deserve our respect. Maybe sometimes their attitudes may irritate some but I say "So what!!" Those of us who have never had to fight for our freedom but just enjoy it do not know what they have gone through so that we can be free. It has to anger them to be shown the disrespect that I have seen here and that they face daily in the news media.

    These men and women who are now returning from this war should be able to get help before they slip into a life of drinking and drugs to try to forget seeing their buddies killed or maimed for life.

    How many do live on the streets doing drugs and drinking their life away to try and forget.

    It is a shame that our government does not give them more help to be able to return to civilian life. But there are many organizations that are helping and are making an impact in the lives of our veterans.

    The very least we can do is respect those who have fought in the wars. If you see someone in the military smile at them and let them know you appreciate them. I am not sure who it was that was in the military here at DJ that said when he sees someone in a restaurant that is in the military he always has the waitperson give him their bill.

    I am sure it can be just the little things that we can do that would make a whole lot of difference in the life of someone in the military.


    Well said, Cynthia.
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #115
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Well said, Cynthia.


    Thanks Deb I do appreciate it. :)
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #116
    ehh.. I did it anyway huh Cynthia =(
    It's just that seeing Jed's moronic posts is like stepping in dog sheit.. I just have an impulse to scrape it off my shoe.

    I will end with this link.
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #117
    @ RCB2875
    ehh.. I did it anyway huh Cynthia =(
    It's just that seeing Jed's moronic posts is like stepping in dog sheit.. I just have an impulse to scrape it off my shoe.

    I will end with this link.



    Good link, RCB. I think it's very important to throw links like this out as often as we can...it can only help these vets!
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #118
    @ RCB2875
    ehh.. I did it anyway huh Cynthia =(
    It's just that seeing Jed's moronic posts is like stepping in dog sheit.. I just have an impulse to scrape it off my shoe.

    I will end with this link.


    First RCB I have not or had any problem with your comments. I understand why you needed to comment back to Jed.

    I had a headache and needed to email a friend for some help that he has offered to give me. I thought why have my inbox filled up when I could check the post in the morning.

    Thank you for the helpful link and for any comments that you leave on any thing that I post.

    I honestly do not have a problem with you and I don't want you to think that I do. :)
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #119
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Good link, RCB. I think it's very important to throw links like this out as often as we can...it can only help these vets!


    I agree Deb it is always good to have someone be helpful.
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #120
    @ Debra Myers (skyangel)
    Good link, RCB. I think it's very important to throw links like this out as often as we can...it can only help these vets!


    @ RCB2875
    ehh.. I did it anyway huh Cynthia =(
    It's just that seeing Jed's moronic posts is like stepping in dog sheit.. I just have an impulse to scrape it off my shoe.

    I will end with this link.

    Ol' jed's moronic posts are the one which do not conform to your own prejudices, eh, arcie, bee..?
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  RCB2875
    #121
    @ Jedediah Redman
    Ol' jed's moronic posts are the one which do not conform to your own prejudices, eh, arcie, bee..?

    Talk to the hand.. /me neck roll, twist, with a snap!
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #122
    @ RCB2875
    Talk to the hand.. /me neck roll, twist, with a snap!


    You keep making these tough guy posts, arcie bee, the management is going to start to worry...
  • Samantha A. Torrence Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #123
    that wasn't a tough guy comment. It was more like a this...

  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Debra Myers (skyangel)
    #124
    LOLOLOL!!!!
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #125
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    that wasn't a tough guy comment. It was more like a this...



    Funny, Sam. :)
  • Samantha A. Torrence Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #126
    =) pretty good for a girl with dementia huh. lol
  • avatar Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #127
    @ Samantha A. Torrence
    =) pretty good for a girl with dementia huh. lol


    Is it de-men-tia or de-mom-tia? =)
  • Samantha A. Torrence Posted Jul 5, 2008 by  Samantha A. Torrence
    #128
    raving demomtia. =)
  • brwnavy Posted Jul 6, 2008 by  brwnavy
    #129
    Good article!

    It has been over 40 years since my tours in Vietnam but the sounds of a fireworks display still bother me. Although I don't hit the deck or run for cover any longer it still get's my adrenalin pumping.
    Even the sound of a helicopter or a fast jet flying overhead takes me back.
    I disliked helicopters then and still won't ride in one to this day. I saw way too many of them get shot down. They don't flutter or glide to the ground when they lose power, they drop like stones.

    There was a time after I returned from Nam that any noise whether it was a firecracker, a car backfire, or the boom of fireworks would take me right back to the dark nights, outgoing and incoming gunfire, the smell of gunpowder, and my own mortality.

    The VA was useless to me back in those days, as it was to many other Nam vets. The only help I received was through a DAV outreach program in the 1980's after years of nightmares and living on the edge.

    I certainly hope the VA has learned lessons from Nam. The young men and women coming back from a combat zone now need our understanding at the least.
  • Jedediah Redman Posted Jul 6, 2008 by  Jedediah Redman
    #130
    @ 666divine
    Where I live, we have laws against that - so far there are no laws agaisnt curmudgeons. :)


    Patriots are very selective about the laws they respect around here...
  • avatar Posted Jul 6, 2008 by  Cynthia T. [Picasso]
    #131
    @ brwnavy
    Good article!

    It has been over 40 years since my tours in Vietnam but the sounds of a fireworks display still bother me. Although I don't hit the deck or run for cover any longer it still get's my adrenalin pumping.
    Even the sound of a helicopter or a fast jet flying overhead takes me back.
    I disliked helicopters then and still won't ride in one to this day. I saw way too many of them get shot down. They don't flutter or glide to the ground when they lose power, they drop like stones.

    There was a time after I returned from Nam that any noise whether it was a firecracker, a car backfire, or the boom of fireworks would take me right back to the dark nights, outgoing and incoming gunfire, the smell of gunpowder, and my own mortality.

    The VA was useless to me back in those days, as it was to many other Nam vets. The only help I received was through a DAV outreach program in the 1980's after years of nightmares and living on the edge.

    I certainly hope the VA has learned lessons from Nam. The young men and women coming back from a combat zone now need our understanding at the least.


    Thank you brwnavy.

    I didn't realize how hard that it still is on some of you until I came across two articles.

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